1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Hidden power, secrets, cover-ups, corruption. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,000 You think you know the whole story? 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Think again. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:22,000 I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 I've heard things that'll blow your mind, 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,000 and now I think it's time you get the whole story. 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Now, the 9-11 conspiracy that was lost in the smoke from the trade towers. 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 The attack on the Pentagon. 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Was the US military headquarters really hit by hijacked jetliner? 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Or was the damage caused by something else? 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 An airplane causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 We should not accept such an explanation. 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Jesse Ventura uncovers the clothes from the debris outside the Pentagon. 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,000 I didn't see any tail, I didn't see any seats. 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,000 I saw nothing that resembled an aircraft. 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:13,000 To the survivors inside the Pentagon. 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Did you at all see an airplane? 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 I didn't. To me, it sounded like a bomb. 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,000 White-hard issues, the mainstream news media won't dare touch. 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 We have many pilots speaking out, and our media just ignores them. 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Censors surveillance footage. 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 The tapes were confiscated immediately by the FBI. 23 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Phantom phone calls from the jet. 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Right now, sir, women? 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Aimed shocking allegations, the attack was staged 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,000 to hide a massive Defense Department money scan. 28 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000 We cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,000 And amazingly, that exact place, that quote, plane hit, 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,000 was where all the computers were stored for what Rumsfeld talked about. 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Jesse Ventura storms the Pentagon. 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 He confronts the 9-11 Commission. 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 I think the Commission was doomed. 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Missiles. Bombs. 35 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Cover-ups. 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 The 9-11 Pentagon conspiracy. 37 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,000 I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory. 38 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Jesse Ventura is inside the Pentagon. 39 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 One of the most secure buildings in the world. 40 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,000 And on September 11, 2001, the target of a terrorist attack. 41 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Or was it? 42 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 The Governor is here to dispute the 9-11 Commission's official version of events. 43 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,000 And investigate allegations of an inside job. 44 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 And when he doesn't get what he's looking for, 45 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 he goes straight to the 9-11 Commission's council. 46 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Okay, so Governor, you've asked me a lot of questions that indicate that 47 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 you do not really believe that 9-11 happened the way it did. 48 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 So what exactly is your bottom line and where are you going with this? 49 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 My bottom line is the truth. 50 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,000 After all these years, there are still a lot of questions about the 9-11 attacks 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 that haven't even been asked. 52 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Especially when it comes to the Pentagon. 53 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,000 That's why I followed up on a call from a guy named Charles Lewis. 54 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:01,000 On September the 11th, he was an inspector for the Los Angeles Building and Safety Department. 55 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Fresh off a bunch of construction jobs at the LA International Airport. 56 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:14,000 And what he witnessed at the airport that morning was more than enough reason to get on the case. 57 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Charlie, let's get right to it. Give me your story. 58 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 What happened to you on September the 11th of 2001? 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,000 On that morning, there was quite a bit of activity going on there. 60 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 And I was able to hear a great deal of what was being said. 61 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,000 I discovered that they were aware that LAX was one of the targets. 62 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:43,000 They seemed to be very upset that of all the air traffic controllers watching those planes, 63 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,000 no one had bothered to notify NORAD. 64 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command. 65 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 It's the nation's air defense system. 66 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:03,000 And the word came back that NORAD had indeed been notified, but they were ordered to stand down. 67 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 NORAD had been ordered to stand down. 68 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Stand down. That means our air defense system was ordered not to send up fighter jets 69 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,000 to intercept the hijacked planes that were on the loose. 70 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Who gave the order for NORAD to stand down? 71 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,000 The word came back that the order had come from the highest level of the White House. 72 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 It couldn't have been George W. Bush who gave the order. 73 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,000 We all know he was in Florida reading the pet goat to a bunch of school kids. 74 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:44,000 It could only be one man, the vice president, Dick Cheney. 75 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 I guess they figured they had to follow orders. 76 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 But Charles Lewis' story doesn't end there. 77 00:05:53,000 --> 00:06:00,000 After he got the stand down information, he heard something else on the high level police radio frequency. 78 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:07,000 The Pentagon had been hit, but not by American Airlines Flight 77. 79 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 They said that a missile had hit the Pentagon. 80 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Clearly they said a missile had hit the Pentagon, not an airplane but a missile. 81 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 A missile. 82 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:27,000 I was very surprised by the time that I got home and got the television on that it had somehow mysteriously changed from a missile to an airplane. 83 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 A missile? A stand down? 84 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:38,000 There were a lot of rumors and hysteria that day, but this guy was in on official transmissions. 85 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 And he said there was even more evidence. 86 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,000 It was high time we looked into this and find out what the government might be hiding. 87 00:06:50,000 --> 00:07:01,000 The 9-11 commission says Flight 77 took off from Dulles Airport outside of Washington shortly after the other two planes had already left the two that hit the tower. 88 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Then it says it turned around and struck the Pentagon at 9.37 a.m. 89 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Right. Now that makes sense from the hijackers point of view that they left right after those other two planes left because then the crew from Flight 77 wouldn't get word of the New York attacks in time to stop this new wave of attacks. 90 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:27,000 But that isn't what our informants telling us. This informant told me that he heard radio traffic that talked about a missile. 91 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Wow. That's insane. 92 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Well there's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up. 93 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:40,000 As crazy and wild as this sounds, I still think we ought to check it out. 94 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:46,000 There was a lot of evidence and a lot of clues that might help solve the mystery. 95 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Me and my investigators were going to fan out and hit them all. 96 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Coming up. A jet, a missile, or a bomb? 97 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Exclusive FBI video blasts holes in the official story. 98 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:11,000 The nose of an airplane causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical. It doesn't make any sense. 99 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 My plane has been hijacked. 100 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Then a shocking explanation for the phone calls that allegedly came from the doomed flight. 101 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I'll show you a voice morph, which is to be able to take a voice and just change it into another voice. 102 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 This sound had urgent all the way. 103 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 But where did he start? 104 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:40,000 And later, Jesse Ventura storms a Pentagon officials office and demands answers for you. 105 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,000 I still question why we can't see all the security cameras in film. 106 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Crasher. 107 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Conspiracy theories have only grown in the years since the 9-11 attacks. 108 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Most of the focus has been on the destruction of the World Trade Tower. 109 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,000 The lesser known story is what really happened at the Pentagon. 110 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Jesse Ventura and his team are out to find evidence of the truths that have been withheld. 111 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 I got boots on the ground in Washington. 112 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,000 June was across the Potomac meeting a 9-11 conspiracy expert. 113 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Matt Sullivan laid out the first evidence of a conspiracy. 114 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Did someone stop fighter jets from intercepting the hijacked airliner? 115 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 So, do you think there could have been a stand-down order? 116 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Well, you know, we get that from the Manetta testimony. 117 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Norman Manetta was the transportation secretary at the time of 9-11. 118 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,000 And he testified in front of the 9-11 police. 119 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 May 23rd, 2003. 120 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Manetta said he was in the White House underground bunker with Vice President Dick Cheney, 121 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 while Flight 77 was speeding toward the Pentagon. 122 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 There was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, 123 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 the plane is 50 miles out. 124 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 The plane is 30 miles out. 125 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 And when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, 126 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 the young man also said to the Vice President, 127 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 do the orders still stand? 128 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,000 And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, 129 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 of course the orders still stand. 130 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,000 If Manetta's testimony is correct that the plane was the one going into the Pentagon, 131 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 then clearly it must have been an order not to shoot the plane down 132 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 because the plane wasn't shot down. 133 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,000 So did Manetta's testimony ever make it to the 9-11 Commission Report? 134 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 No, his testimony never appears in the printed report. 135 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:57,000 But even more interesting, it's been excised from the video record of the 9-11 Commission. 136 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Whoa! 137 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:07,000 The 9-11 Commission slapped a gag on the transportation secretary for not towing the party line. 138 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 And why didn't the military stop the hijacked jet? 139 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Matt Sullivan says the evidence at the scene begins to answer that question. 140 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Maybe a jet never hit the Pentagon at all. 141 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 We know something happened at the Pentagon, 142 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 but we don't know that a plane crashed into it. 143 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 There's no big sections, there's no tail sections, there's no fuselage. 144 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 It wasn't a jet. 145 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,000 My investigator Daniel was getting the same story from Duane Deets. 146 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Deets used to be an engineer with NASA. 147 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:52,000 He demonstrated how the damage at the Pentagon just doesn't add up to a 757. 148 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:59,000 You would expect a twin-engine transport airplane like the 757. 149 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 You would notice the two engine holes. 150 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,000 That would be very prominent from all aircraft accidents that we know of. 151 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Whereas we didn't see two obvious engine holes in the front. 152 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,000 But if I can go to the other end, you can see the damage path and that comes to a point there. 153 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 It's the point on what's called the C-ring of the Pentagon. 154 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:30,000 At that point, where you would expect the nose of the airplane to be totally disintegrated, 155 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:36,000 it looks like a very extremely strong and impenetrable item, 156 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,000 struck it and just blew out the hole. 157 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 It doesn't make any sense. 158 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 It would have been broken up by that point or it would have vaporized by that point. 159 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:49,000 That's right. Transport airplanes have got material that is not strong at all in the nose area. 160 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,000 The nose of an airplane going through all of that material 161 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,000 and then causing that kind of damage is just nonsensical. 162 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:05,000 So if there's a question about what did or didn't hit the Pentagon, why not go to the videotape? 163 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Every inch outside the Pentagon is covered by security cameras. 164 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:19,000 An FBI report indicated at least 85 cameras were up and working that morning. 165 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Yeah, there were a lot of cameras around the Pentagon. 166 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,000 If you look at the Pentagon, you can see that there's cameras on each corner. 167 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 There's cameras at some of the businesses around the Pentagon. 168 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:36,000 We know in those cases the tapes were confiscated immediately by the FBI within hours of the event. 169 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:45,000 It took five years of lawsuits to force the Defense Department to release just three minutes of footage. 170 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,000 And it all came down to five frames. 171 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Notice anything strange? 172 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:02,000 No video or photos have ever shown an airliner approaching or hitting the building. 173 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 This is what I think happened to vine in towards the Pentagon. 174 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 I think it actually pulled up a little bit. 175 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 There was a big explosion that we all saw. 176 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 And then what happened to the plane? 177 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Well, it continued on somewhere behind this big cloud of black smoke. 178 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Dietz is saying the jetliner flew just above this camera's view. 179 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 It never hit the Pentagon. 180 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Something else caused the explosion. 181 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 And there's another problem with the official story. 182 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:44,000 The terrorists didn't have the expertise to fly a high-speed jet into such a low structure. 183 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,000 So said former Air Force pilot Rob Balsamo. 184 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:57,000 I met him at a small airport in Virginia where the alleged hijack pilot, Hany Hanyour, took flying lessons. 185 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:08,000 For Hany Hanyour to have this aircraft going 150 knots over its max operating limit is just incredible speeds for the aircraft. 186 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,000 The vertical speeds are too great to be level across the lawn. 187 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 The alleged pilot and the jet couldn't do it. 188 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 We were going to have to put this one to the test. 189 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Coming up inside the flight simulator. 190 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Proof that no one could have steered Flight 77 into the Pentagon. 191 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Okay, 440 knots. 192 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,000 You're going back. 193 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Yes, sir. 194 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Then, was this an inside job by our own Defense Department? 195 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Jesse Ventura follows the money. 196 00:15:50,000 --> 00:16:00,000 The day before 9-11, Donald Rumsfeld talks about they can't account for $2.3 trillion of Pentagon expenses. 197 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,000 And later, shocking evidence that phone calls from the doomed jet were faked. 198 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,000 We may have been duped by someone pretending to be his life. 199 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:29,000 American Airlines Flight 77 left Washington Dulles Airport for Los Angeles at 8.20 a.m. on September 11, 2001. 200 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,000 The Boeing 757 held 58 passengers, 4 flight attendants and 2 pilots. 201 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 It veered off course at 8.40 a.m. 202 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Its transponder, which identifies the jet on radar, shut off at 8.56. 203 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:57,000 The National Transportation Safety Board says the jet hit the Pentagon at 9.37 45 a.m. 204 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:03,000 But was it even possible for an inexperienced pilot to pull off the maneuver? 205 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Jesse Ventura learns more about the aircraft and the alleged hijacker from pilot Rob Balsamo. 206 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Now we re at the airport where Hanee Han Jor supposedly tried to rent an airplane seminal of this one. 207 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,000 This one here? 208 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Assessment once exactly. 209 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,000 They refused to rent them 172 because he couldn t control it. 210 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 That s unheard of. 211 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,000 Now let me ask you this. 212 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:35,000 You as a professional pilot, how much more difficult is it to fly a Cessna 172 or a 752-2? 213 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:44,000 How much more difficult is it to fly a Cessna 172 or a 757 or a 767 Boeing jet? 214 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Oh well. 215 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,000 First of all, it s night and day when you look at the cockpit compared to each other. 216 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Hanee Han Jor could not control 757. 217 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Investigator Daniel Kuchen is at another airport to meet Captain Rusty Amur. 218 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 They ll use a flight simulator to replicate the jet s path to destruction. 219 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Or will they? 220 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 So I ve flown a tiny bit in the very small planes. 221 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Okay, good. 222 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,000 So your experience is somewhat similar to the alleged hijackers. 223 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:25,000 From what we know, they even had problems in a small airplane at the fastest maybe 120 knots. 224 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,000 You re going to speed this up to 500 knots. 225 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Physics don t allow it. 226 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,000 At those speeds, the wings have departed long time ago. 227 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 The surfaces will just rip off. 228 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,000 500 knots is way too much. 229 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 The airplane is not designed for that. 230 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:54,000 The problem with controlling the aircraft on 9-11 is the fact that the aircraft was doing 110 knots over its max operating limit. 231 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,000 That s why we have so many pilots speaking out and they re raising their BS legs. 232 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Meanwhile, Daniel was at the controls in that 757 flight simulator. 233 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,000 He had as good a chance as anybody of hitting the target. 234 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Okay, you re 311 knots. 235 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 You want to go all the way around? 236 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Yeah, because I ve got to get back towards the city here. 237 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 You can feel it right now. 238 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 You feel the G-forces? 239 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Yeah. 240 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,000 All right, go for it. 241 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Go towards it. 242 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,000 I m going to increase your speed to your 360 knots. 243 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 There we go. 244 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Your 424 knots. 245 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 And again, your radius of turn is becoming so great. 246 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Yeah, it s hard. 247 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Keep it turning. Keep it turning. 248 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 Keep it turning. 249 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Keep it turning. 250 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Now go down. 251 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Die for it. 252 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Yeah. 253 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 There s 500 knots. 254 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Keep it going. 255 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,000 It s very touchy. 256 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,000 I can understand. 257 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Now you re going on your back. 258 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 You re going on your back. 259 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000 Keep it rolling. 260 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Keep it rolling. 261 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Keep it rolling. 262 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Keep it rolling. 263 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 You hit something, but obviously it was not that building. 264 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:09,000 So it s your professional opinion that Hanji could not fly that 757 the way the government told us he did? 265 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Well, it s not even just professional opinion. 266 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 It s based on facts and data. 267 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Okay. 268 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,000 It s past that. 269 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 370 knots. 270 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Oh, come on. 271 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Hang on. 272 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 I m going to get him. 273 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 I m going to get him. 274 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,000 440 knots. 275 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000 You re going on your back. 276 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000 I missed him. 277 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,000 I missed again. 278 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000 There s no denying. 279 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 It s incredibly difficult. 280 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Especially with that turn that the NTSB data said, the 277 made, and then he levels off 281 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000 and then pretty much just guns it straight in. 282 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,000 That straight path right in is really incredibly difficult. 283 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Correct. 284 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Correct. 285 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000 So what do you think? 286 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 I couldn t do it. 287 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,000 You couldn t do it. 288 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Not a thing. 289 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,000 You couldn t do it. 290 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Not at that speed. 291 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Not at 500 knots. 292 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:01,000 So if it wasn t the plane that hit the Pentagon, what the hell wasn t? 293 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,000 I think it s about time we start looking at other possibilities. 294 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Coming up, Jesse uncovers what really caused the damage to the Pentagon. 295 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Shocking accounts from ones who were there. 296 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000 To me, it sounded like a bomb. 297 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,000 I saw nothing that resembled an aircraft. 298 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Then, what about those phone calls from the Doom flight? 299 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 The bizarre, shocking conspiracy theory. 300 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,000 He may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife. 301 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,000 My plane has been hijacked. 302 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,000 What should I do? 303 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:43,000 And later, Jesse Ventura confronts a 9-11 commissioner and demands the truth. 304 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Why has all the tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon been confiscated, put in national security? 305 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 I have no idea. 306 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Conspiracy theories about the 9-11 attack on the Pentagon exploded on the fifth anniversary 307 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,000 when a 9-11 commissioner slipped up on national television. 308 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:19,000 There were many times you were afraid, especially when I was standing in front of the Pentagon that night 309 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:29,000 saying one of our fortresses pried open by a missile, an airplane pried open by a missile. 310 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Pryed open by a missile? 311 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Something exploded at the Pentagon. 312 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000 But was it a jetliner? 313 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,000 The only bodies found at the scene were Pentagon employees. 314 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:48,000 But there's never been evidence of passengers' bodies being recovered from the Pentagon wreckage. 315 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:57,000 The Flight 77 victims were only identified later at Dover Air Force Base, 104 miles away. 316 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Now, Jesse Ventura's team finds eyewitnesses to confirm expert opinion about the explosion. 317 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,000 People who were outside and inside the Pentagon. 318 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 I arrived at a DC diner to meet April Gallup. 319 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,000 She was a US Army specialist working inside the Pentagon the morning of 9-11 320 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:28,000 when something exploded 30 feet from her desk. 321 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000 And she wasn't alone. 322 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 She'd brought her two-month-old baby to work. 323 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000 When I went to sit down at the computer, I put my son's stroller right beside me. 324 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,000 As soon as I went to turn on the computer, boom. 325 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 A massive explosion. 326 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,000 That's it. 327 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 And this was the plane hitting the Pentagon. 328 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 To me, it sounded like a bomb. 329 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Sounded like a bomb. 330 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Sounded like a bomb. 331 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000 I was covered from here all the way down. 332 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 People were saying, help me, save me. 333 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,000 And so I low crawled out under my elbows and I reached over the debris that we were climbing over. 334 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,000 And I pulled up the baby by the onesie and put him over my shoulder. 335 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,000 And we went out, came out of the gaping hole I passed out. 336 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,000 So you walked out the hole that the plane supposedly created? 337 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Did you at all see an airplane? 338 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,000 I did. 339 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 That's why it was really hard for me to believe. 340 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 June found even more supporting evidence. 341 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,000 When she met news cameraman Bob Pugh near the Capitol, 342 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,000 he'd started filming within five minutes of the explosion. 343 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,000 This will be the actual unedited video that I shot that morning. 344 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,000 What's happening here? 345 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 This is the first frame I shot. 346 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,000 This was about 100 yards from the impact site or the site of the fire. 347 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Just to stop you a moment. 348 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Yes. 349 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Have you ever been to another plane crash site? 350 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:04,000 I was at the Air Florida crash in 1980 when it hit Potomac River when it took off from Washington National Airport. 351 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000 And how did that differ from this? 352 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 It was identifiable. 353 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,000 I mean, the tail was taken out of the water, there was debris. 354 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,000 They actually recovered a lot of the victims, sold in their seats. 355 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 But look how clean the lawn is. 356 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000 I know. 357 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000 There is no sign that a plane has been anywhere near this lawn. 358 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,000 I was looking for pieces, anything to identify what I might be looking at. 359 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,000 And I saw nothing. 360 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000 No luggage, no wheels, no engines. 361 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Nothing that resembled an aircraft. 362 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,000 There is a picture of the hole and it's basically the size of a two car garage. 363 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,000 That hole in the Pentagon was relatively small. 364 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Too small to be made by a 757. 365 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,000 In 1957, if it looked bigger, it's because of the fire and structure collapse that followed. 366 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 I couldn't discern a mark of the wings as they came out. 367 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,000 I can't logically make that fit with what they tell me happened here. 368 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,000 April Gallop's story picks up in the hospital. 369 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:17,000 April said that she and her son were recovering from their injuries when she got a visit from the military brass. 370 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 And they asked you what you thought happened. 371 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,000 I said, well, I thought it was a bomb. 372 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 And they were like, no, it was this. 373 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Then they corrected you when you said it was a bomb, then they informed you know it was an airplane. 374 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Exactly. 375 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Have you testified before the 9-11 Commission? 376 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 No, never been called, never been contacted. 377 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,000 And I don't know of any video that was taken earlier by anyone. 378 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Since 9-11, have you been threatened in any way? 379 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Have you been told to keep your mouth shut? 380 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Yes, I have. 381 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Who does that? 382 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 That was my military leaders. 383 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Do you feel threatened today too? 384 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Yes, I do. 385 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,000 And you know what? 386 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,000 I'm just gonna go. 387 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 I'm just gonna go. 388 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:19,000 After all these years, April Gallop still fears the government is out to silence her. 389 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000 For good reason. 390 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:32,000 She filed a lawsuit against the government claiming Flight 77's black boxes will indicate the jet passed over the Pentagon 391 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:39,000 amid an explosion and fireball from a planted bomb, bombs and or missile. 392 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,000 The FBI said the boxes were recovered. 393 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:55,000 But get this, the government says their cockpit voice recorders were badly damaged, useless, convenient. 394 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 April, be careful. 395 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:06,000 This conspiracy was looking all too obvious, but there was one more loose end to clear up. 396 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Look, there was at least one phone call made from that jet while it was happening. 397 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Coming up, an amazing accusation. 398 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Evidence that phone calls from the jet could have been faked. 399 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 This is called a morph. 400 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000 A morph is where it goes from one voice to the other voice. 401 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 This is called the original life. 402 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Then, a monstrous motive was the attack planned as part of a Pentagon plot to cover up trillions of missing dollars. 403 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,000 You're putting planes into the World Trade Center to send us off to war. 404 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000 Why wouldn't we add a little icing to the cake? 405 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000 We got some major troubles in the Pentagon that we got to account for. 406 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:58,000 And later, the governor storms into the Pentagon and demands the truth from a member of the 9-11 Commission. 407 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000 I'm not sure if you just think the 9-11 Commission was duped. 408 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Oh no, I think the 9-11 Commission was duped. 409 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 To me, it sounded like a bomb. 410 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,000 I just spoke with a lady named April Gallup. 411 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,000 She worked right where this happened in the Pentagon. 412 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,000 And she was there that day. 413 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:33,000 She even walked out the damn hole that was created by the plane. 414 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:40,000 And she doesn't recall seeing one thing that indicated a plane had crashed there. 415 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Yet we're supposed to believe government people that weren't even there? 416 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Look, there was at least one phone call made from that jet while it was happening. 417 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,000 There were passengers on that plane that had this experience. 418 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 These are real people we're talking about. 419 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Not just an abstraction, not just an idea. 420 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Flight 77 disappeared from radar for 28 minutes before the Pentagon was hit. 421 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:11,000 The only evidence the jet was still airborne came from phone calls allegedly placed from inside. 422 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,000 George W. Bush's solicitor general Ted Olson says he received two calls from his wife, Barbara. 423 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:30,000 But that story is about to be disputed, disproven, and exposed as a cruel ploy. 424 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000 We have the problem with an impossible call. It didn't happen. 425 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Dr. A.K. Dudney speaks to investigator Jun Sarpong from Ontario, Canada. 426 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 He's a noted computer scientist. 427 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:50,000 He conducted tests proving that cell phone calls could not have been made from the jet. 428 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,000 It flew too fast and too high to connect with any cell towers. 429 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000 It couldn't have been cell phone calls. 430 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:03,000 In fact, within a few days of 9-11, Olson changed his story to say that it was the back of the seat phone. 431 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Were there even passenger seat phones on Flight 77? 432 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:17,000 A meticulous researcher noticed on the American Airlines website that the 757 equipment was not equipped with back of the seat or air phones as they called them. 433 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:27,000 And then later on, at the Masui trial in 2006, an FBI source reported to the court that in fact Ted Olson received no cell phone calls from his wife, 434 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,000 except possibly one in which the connection time was zero seconds. 435 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Zero seconds? That would mean no conversation at all. 436 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:47,000 We have a pretty big contradiction because we've got Olson claiming that she told him that there are air-abbed hijackers with box cutters on board, 437 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000 and we've got the FBI saying no, that call didn't happen. 438 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Wow! Is this guy saying Ted Olson lied about his wife's last words? 439 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:04,000 I prefer to believe that Olson is telling the truth, that he may have been duped by someone pretending to be his wife. 440 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,000 What kind of technology would be needed to fake a phone call? 441 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Better yet, how could a guy not know what his own wife sounds like? 442 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000 So you're a forensic scientist? 443 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Yes. 444 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Turns out, it's easy. Daniel was getting a first-hand demonstration from forensic audio technician Kent Gibson. 445 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:35,000 I need to be able to call you and make you think that it's a friend of yours calling or a relation, even though it's me. 446 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:41,000 Well, cell phones have many opportunities for extraneous noise, which is really the way you hide anything. 447 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Like crackling or static. 448 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Yeah, because that's natural in a cell phone. 449 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,000 First up, creating a voice on a computer and making it sound human. 450 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000 What would you like for me to type? 451 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 452 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,000 A man or a woman? 453 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000 A man. 454 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Okay, let's try it. 455 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,000 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 456 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Right now, let's see a woman. 457 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,000 My plane has been hijacked. What should I do? 458 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000 I've got another machine over here, which is a little different. 459 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,000 This time, the guy took my voice and made it his. 460 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,000 This is called a morph. A morph is where it goes from one voice to the other voice. 461 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000 That's a morph from me digesting it back. 462 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000 This sounded urgent all right, but where do we start? 463 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000 This sounded urgent all right, but where do we start? 464 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:38,000 It's easy to see how they could take any voice and make it sound like Olson's wife. 465 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 This sounded urgent all right. 466 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 But where do we start? 467 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:48,000 There's no question that there are some serious, serious problems with the interpretation 468 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000 given to the events of 9-11 by the White House. 469 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,000 So if it wasn't Al Qaeda terrorists who hit the Pentagon, who did? 470 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 And what was the motive? 471 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,000 I'd found it was more than a missile, more than a bomb. 472 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,000 There was real speculation that this was an inside job. 473 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Okay, so what reason did you guys come up with for the Pentagon to attack its own headquarters? 474 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Well, it's simple. If you believe a theory that the Bush administration wanted a pretext to go to war in Iraq? 475 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Now, let's take it a step further. 476 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000 The day before 9-11, on the 10th of September, 477 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Donald Rumsfeld holds a press conference and talks about they can't account for $2.3 trillion of Pentagon expenses. 478 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,000 According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. 479 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:52,000 And amazingly, the exact place that, quote, plain hit was where all the computers and data were stored at for what Rumsfeld talked about. 480 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Yeah, it's unthinkable until you think about it. 481 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 More than records were lost in the impact area. 482 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,000 One Army office lost 34 of its 65 employees. 483 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,000 The office was called Resource Services Washington. 484 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000 The victims were at their desks. 485 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Most were civilians, bookkeepers, accountants, budget analysts, 486 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,000 the folks who'd know most about a cover-up and who was stealing the money. 487 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000 What does Rumsfeld have to say about that? 488 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Nothing. We've tried to contact his office on multiple occasions and we get no answer. 489 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,000 I've served in the military. 490 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000 There would be one room that they would keep all this stuff. 491 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,000 There would be multiple dots there that need to be connected. 492 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000 And I can connect them. 493 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,000 It's an extension of the original up, getting two for one. 494 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000 You're putting planes into the World Trade Center to send us off to war. 495 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Wait a minute. Let me finish. 496 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000 To send us off to war on top of it. 497 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Why wouldn't we add a little icing to the cake? 498 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000 We got some major troubles in the Pentagon. 499 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:04,000 If we send a missile in there and blow it up, no one will ever talk about that September 10th press conference again. 500 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 And am I not right on that? 501 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,000 It was time to visit the Pentagon and hit the government with the evidence. 502 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Coming up, the governor marches into the Pentagon and confronts a member of the 9-11 Commission. 503 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:30,000 The day before 9-11, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld reports that they have simply lost $2.3 trillion. 504 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Do you recall that the day before 9-11? 505 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Was the 9-11 attack on the Pentagon an inside job? 506 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,000 With Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld implicated in the conspiracy, 507 00:36:53,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Jesse Ventura charges into the U.S. defense headquarters to demand the truth. 508 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,000 I made my way through security. 509 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:12,000 I met the Defense Department escorts, trying to lead me to a PR flak. 510 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000 Not interested. I wanted to see the impact site. 511 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,000 This is where the records for that missing $2.3 trillion were kept. 512 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,000 This is where all the financial people were killed. 513 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000 This is the angle right where the plane allegedly kicked me in there. 514 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Yes, there was a security camera in the parking lot just to the right. 515 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:43,000 There was a security camera on the far end of the building that caught the aircraft as it came in. 516 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,000 This guy's just spouting 9-11 Commission script. 517 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,000 The only video they've released doesn't show a jet at all. 518 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:58,000 I still question why we can't see all the security cameras in film. 519 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000 I don't understand why we're not allowed to see them. 520 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000 A jet, a missile, a bomb. 521 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000 All the evidence has been swept away and papered over. 522 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000 I needed to talk to a member of the 9-11 Commission. 523 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Find out why these questions never made it to the official 9-11 report. 524 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Janice Kephart was Commission counsel. 525 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,000 Her names on the report let her defend it. 526 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,000 One thing that troubled me greatly was the fact that the day before 9-11, 527 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:39,000 Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has a press conference where he reports that they 528 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000 have simply lost $2.3 trillion. 529 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,000 They don't have receipts for it. They don't know where it went. 530 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Do you recall that the day before 9-11? 531 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Well, if you don't, that's what happened. 532 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,000 According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transaction. 533 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000 And how ironic that the exact place that was struck in the Pentagon 534 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000 was where all those records were supposedly had to be. 535 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Now all destroyed. 536 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000 So I guess the $2.3 trillion we as taxpayers just say, 537 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Say Lovey. 538 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Now isn't that a bit much? 539 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000 I have no idea. 540 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Why has all the tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon been confiscated, 541 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,000 put in national security and were not allowed to view the plane hitting the Pentagon? 542 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 And don't come back with me and say, 543 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000 But they did. You saw that little flash of five frames. 544 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000 I have no idea. 545 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Well, you know, the government... 546 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 It's very Warren commission-ish. 547 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,000 The government has a tremendous propensity for secrecy. 548 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,000 And the Defense Department and others do as well. 549 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000 You believe that? 550 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000 The lawyer admits our government's still hiding the truth from you and me. 551 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000 There was no rubble outside. 552 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 All there was was a hole. 553 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000 What happened to where the wings hit? 554 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Ask that question to our 9-11 Commission staffer, 555 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,000 who was the only survivor from that room who made it out. 556 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,000 I did talk to April Gallup, 557 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,000 who was actually inside the room in the Pentagon. 558 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000 And she looked me in the eye and told me unequivocally, 559 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,000 I saw nothing that indicated a plane hit the Pentagon. 560 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,000 I felt that a bomb had exploded. 561 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,000 There are witnesses because they always have different versions of different things. 562 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a lot of questions that indicate that 563 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000 you do not really believe that 9-11 happened the way it did. 564 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 So what exactly is your bottom line and where are you going with this? 565 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000 My bottom line's the truth. 566 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000 I mean, I'm not sure if you just think the 9-11 Commission was duped, 567 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000 or if you think 9-11 Commission was part of the problem. 568 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Oh, no, I think the 9-11 Commission was duped. 569 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000 I don't think you got all the information. 570 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000 I think information was withheld from you all, 571 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,000 much the same as the Warren Commission in the murder of John Kennedy. 572 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Tons of information was withheld. 573 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,000 And that's what it gets down to, the 9-11 Commission itself. 574 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,000 Janice Kephard told me it was under a time crunch, underfunded, 575 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,000 not allowed to include dissenting opinions, 576 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,000 and got no cooperation from the White House. 577 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 We only had to do subpoenas in a couple different areas. 578 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 Subpoenas would be required in this investigation. 579 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Why would someone in government not want to come and tell you what they know? 580 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,000 When 3,000 people were murdered that day. 581 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000 Because it's always about protection of the institution in the end. 582 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Wow. 583 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000 So we had... 584 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,000 That's really eye-opening for me as an American citizen to learn 585 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,000 that protecting the institution is more important than learning the truth. 586 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,000 It'll take more than a 400-page report to put these conspiracy theories to rest. 587 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 And you know what's worse? 588 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,000 The people behind the conspiracy, behind the cover-up, 589 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000 they're still running our government. 590 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,000 Still lying, still hiding the truth. 591 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000 Was it a missile that hit the Pentagon? 592 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Was it a bomb? 593 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Or was it what they told us? 594 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,000 It's been almost 10 years. 595 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,000 And I wouldn't be asking these questions if the government would play straight with us. 596 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:42,000 If they have the footage from all those surveillance cameras, let us see it. 597 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000 If there was no stand-down order, prove it. 598 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,000 And don't question my patriotism because I'm looking for answers. 599 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:58,000 One thing I've learned, if you don't hold their feet to the fire, everybody gets burned. 600 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,000 I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory. 601 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Conspiracy Theory